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Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.08 18:34:00 -
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Please tell me that the armageddon navy issue will keep it's current role, it would be silly to make it a neuting drone ship as well ontop of this new geddon and the baahlgorn... |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:30:00 -
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also on a side note, he says he wants the new armageddon to be like the dragoon... the dragoon is argueably the worst of all the new destroyers, I haven't seen one flown since they first came out, while the other see lots of use.
If people want a strong drone boat with the option for neuts, people default to the dominix... why should the amarr have a ship does also does the same thing? |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.10 14:40:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:OP updated for some slight tweaks to the Apocalypse and Armageddon. Cap stability increase for Apoc and a powergrid tweak for the armageddon.
These are still bad, you've reduced the amarr to being garbage already, the armageddon needs to be a real ship, not this awful abomination of a baahlgorn.
You're *tweak* doesn't solve the cap issues that the amarr have unless there is also a weapon system tweak in store. |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.10 15:11:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:OP updated for some slight tweaks to the Apocalypse and Armageddon. Cap stability increase for Apoc and a powergrid tweak for the armageddon.
TO further iterate, the Abaddon is now the brawler of choice for your changes, spoiler alert, the abaddon isn't capable of running it's guns/prop mod/armor tank. so in order to keep those things running, you have to bring carriers or a fleet of logi not to rep them necessarily, but to keep them shooting, and no one wants to engage a fleet of abaddons with an overly large gang of logi behind it.
the apox is NOT a brawling ship, it doesn't do the damage nor does it have the tank to be able to brawl, it has always been a sniping ship of sort with it's range bonus and sorch, so it's a moot point here.
The armageddon WAS the amarr's ship that was capable of fighting under it's own pretense, it didn't support the tank of the abaddon, but it also didn't suffer from the cap issues. By removing this ships roll you have reduced amarr gangs to bring more logi than is necissary to fights which will makes pilots grumpy and unhappy. (that and the new geddon design is ****) |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:46:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:May Wanderdriven wrote:I don't understand why they can't remove 1 gun from the apocalypse and double the damage bonus. The biggest reason is that there isn't a damage bonus 
How about giving us back our ship that had a damage bonus and a cap bonus? |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:48:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Quote:DO NOT even dare to come any close near the Navy Armageddon and Navy Apocalypse... Oh I'll be coming near them pretty soon alright =) I think you'll be happy though.
I swear to god if you turn the navy geddon into another ****** baahlgorn.... |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.04.16 21:17:00 -
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I love how CCP Rise has just abandoned this thread completely, gotta love kil2 |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.04.17 22:51:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Hey again Amarr fans!
After watching the thread, and having a nice talk with you guys this morning, the balance team here in Reykjavik devoted some time to carefully considering this issue of cap use for Amarr battleships. The resulting change is detailed in a post that should be stickied by now. Please go check it out!
Look forward to hearing your feedback
five days later and still not a word said since this...
has CCP Kil2 Entered full on "ABANDON THREAD" mode... CCP Fozzie please save us from this baddie |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.04.18 13:29:00 -
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Captains Log Day Six: Bad2 or CCP Rise has yet to show up, hope of a non bad armageddon dwindles. |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:52:00 -
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Captains Log Day 7: Morale is wearing thin, crew mates are at each others throats, where is CCP Kil2? has he abandoned us completely? Signs point to yes... |
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Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.20 16:26:00 -
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Day 8... or is it 9, my mind is starting to wane... Tempers flare, it has become obvious CCP kil2 has given up hope and has opted to bring solo back by ruining and entire class of ships... |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.21 18:23:00 -
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Log Day 10: I fear I am the only one left.... |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:09:00 -
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CCP Kil2 wrote: After our last round of reviews we still feel that Amarr is likely in the best place it can be for Odyssey. .
Well now that just isn't true, you've turned the armageddon into the hyperion (it's never going to see the light of day in any pvp situation that involves more than 5 people, because solo and small gang pvp is on the decline kil2 face it (you could fix this, but that would require removing OGB entirely, which won't ever happen so good fight shepherd).)
You also still have yet to address to serious cap issues for amarr ships, or how difficult it is to fit beams onto anything without gimping the fit entirely.
Since your stuck on this god awful abomination of a geddon, care to address the issue if you took away so much power grid that it is no longer capable of fitting a whole rack of heavy neuts and a proper armor tank for a neuting ship? Right now with how little grid there is on the geddon, every other battleship makes a better neut ship. Know why? because neut the range bonus is ****, has been **** and will always be ****, it needs to be a neuting strength bonus to actually set it apart from any other neuting battleship |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:47:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:[quote=Loki Vice][quote=CCP Kil2] -snip-
WAHT? You drunk really? The geddon has issue of not looking amarr at all now. but its SUPER powerful. Almost all low sec and high sec pvp will see it used.
Guuurl, you cray cray. in highsex pvp happens in stations and on gates -fact- where you don't need a useless 30km neut (plus remember you aren't getting a full wrack of heavies) so a neuting phoon/dominix will actually prove to be more beneficial. and in lowsex? nothing is going to change because of the new geddon it will die in a bag of phallusus, frankly if it stays in its current itteration i look forward to seeing all the bads who think "HURP DURP GEDDON OP" fly it into lowsex and add it to my pile o kills. |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:26:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Quote:Im glad you are still watching, but I do not think amarr going to right direction. You are making them weaker, by reducing efficiency of armor tank (resistance bonuses) and boosting other races (8low slots on gallente) and taking away 50% bonus on capacitor and giving 10% instead. But my biggest concern is direction where EVE seems to be going - more and more benefits for new young players, and taking away advantages from older players with more skills and bigger budgets. Soon 10 t1 cruiser will be taking on triage archon, so new players are happy they killed capital ship with their 5 mil isk cruisers and 4 weeks skills. In 2 years everyone will be flying t1 cruisers and other rubbish, because flying expensive and big ships will not make any sence as "gain versus price+skills required' ratio will be so low.
example
augoror - 92 km rep range 598hp repaired / 5sec
guardian - 68km rep range 384 hp repaired /5sec - guardian costs many times more and requires a lot more skills ofc
archon - 52 km rep range 1500hp repaired / 5sec- and we talking here about capital ship with 1 capital module costing more than whole fitted augoror and requiring tons of skillpoints Resistance bonuses are problematic for very clear reasons which Fozzie has done a great job articulating. The ships that field them have a range of power and application and should each be addresses relative to the new changes individually, rather than making oversimplified "amarr is getting weaker" conclusions. There is virtually no power based conclusions you can make about the relationship between 8 low mega and amarr as an overall race design. You need to be much more specific on how that is a problem. Closing the gap between new players and old players in some areas is definitely positive. If you notice that EVE gets to a point where you would rather have less ISK and SP let me know, we'll fix it asap. I'm curious about your augoror vs guardian comparison - I'm guessing your aurgoror has some other issues that you are leaving out.
CCP kil2, missing for almost 2 weeks, gg guys, no matter what you want, Kil2 just has to have his way |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:22:00 -
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just saying why would you use the new shitageddon for neuting when the abaddon does it's job BETTER. http://i.imgur.com/AIWmTs0.png better tank better neut ammount.
OH BUT THAT EXTRA ~12~ KM OF RANGE ON HEAVY NEUTS.... biomass yourself irl.
like this is what you're getting guys http://i.imgur.com/pRk6mCV.png not even a full wrack of heavy neuts and tank. YOUR SHIP ISN'T CAPABLE OF DOING WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO BETTER THAN ANY OTHER BATTLESHIP.
seriously, why have you all just accepting this heap of ****? |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:55:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Loki Vice wrote:...seriously, why have you all just accepting this heap of ****? Because we have been around longer. We have experienced what it is like to have ONLY two damage types (Gallente have always had ample drone space), the worst ones some say, with cross-dressing being the only way to get out from under that. A drone boat with cap supremacy and supplementary damage from whichever weapon system one can use afford us a staggering amount of versatility (more if it had a high moved to mids ) .. The only bad thing is that it is a BS, a class that has such limited use in todays environment that the majority of people will have to suffer under the yolk of lasers for a while longer with the Prophecy being the sole platform to ease the pain.
not sure if you're aware but the most successful alliance in your militia runs nothing but amarr ships for doctrines, damage types be damned the armageddon is **** |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.12 08:08:00 -
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Nikuno wrote:Tonto Auri wrote:I have ALOT of SP in drones already, and I'm NOT going to use that crap afterward. Because who ever want to use crap? Me. I'll be flying this a lot where previously I might have considered a dominix.
why? the dominix is strictly better
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Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.13 20:21:00 -
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Quote:The Armageddon/Dominix debate seems to remain heated, but I think its a really good sign that there's people arguing both sides so passionately, and we'll just have to see how it shakes out once it goes live.
that's thread right there guys, this dipshit is content with his awful ships, gg guys. train gal or minmatar. |
Loki Vice
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:27:00 -
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TIP Armageddon |
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